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The Signpost: 25 April 2024[edit]

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Question from AllCass (18:26, 25 April 2024)[edit]

Hi Rusty, nice to meet you! I've newly joined the Wikipedia editing world and accidentally made a mistake. While publishing some changes on an article, I accidentally clicked on a citation which appeared to have created an extra, empty citation as part of the 'Notes' list. It shows up on the page as "Cite error: The named reference noteStockard2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page)." In the editing portion, it appears as "This reference is defined in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be previewed in source mode". I've tried looking for it on the source page but have had no luck locating it. Please help me, I'm completely lost on this! --AllCass (talk) 18:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AllCass: Hi there! Welcome to Wikipedia!
Once you've switched to "Source editing" through the pencil icon on the top left, try searching for the reference name "noteStockard2" in the source page. (Your browser might offer a "find" option.) Looking at your edit, it seems that you've accidentally changed the citation that is being used from "noteStockard" to "noteStockard2". Since "noteStockard2" doesn't have any content, it produces the error. Just change the name of the citation from "noteStockard2" back to "noteStockard" and it should work without an error.
Feel free to ask if you have further questions. Rusty4321 talk contribs 20:17, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Found it using ctrl+f and it worked! The error is no longer there. Thank you so much for helping me to resolve this Rusty, I appreciate it! AllCass (talk) 08:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-18[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages
Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.
  • The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: Azerbaijani Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [1]
  • Seven new wikis have been created:
  • You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [9]
  • Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.

Problems

  • Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using mapstyle="osm". This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [10]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar). [11][12]

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Question from TitanicEdits (23:38, 1 May 2024)[edit]

How do I create a citation? I'm new. --TitanicEdits (talk) 23:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TitanicEdits: Hello and welcome. Click the "Cite" button or the "cite" dropdown and select an option. See Help:Referencing for beginners for more information.
Feel free to ask if you have questions. Rusty4321 talk contribs 01:10, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – May 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).

Administrator changes

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removed Nihonjoe

CheckUser changes

readded Joe Roe

Oversight changes

removed GeneralNotability

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531

Arbitration

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Question from AllCass (08:47, 3 May 2024)[edit]

Hi again Rusty! Sometimes, when I use the automatic citation feature for a weblink, I get something like this:

"Fields, Christopher; Staff, WLBT com (2022-01-22). "Capri Movie Theatre to show first film in decades". https://www.wlbt.com. Retrieved 2024-05-03. {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help): External link in |website= (help)".

At this point, I usually manually input the citation instead to get rid of the {{cite web}}: Empty citation (help) portion. I've read the help page on it and still don't quite understand what is causing it to appear that way. I was wondering if you could help explain why some citations pull up that way! --AllCass (talk) 08:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AllCass: Hello again! To solve this, you can click on the citation in the text, click on "edit," click the text, click "edit" again, and make sure that there isn't a website name in "name of website." (there might be a faster way to do this, but I might not be aware of it.) Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha! Thanks Rusty! AllCass (talk) 11:49, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AllCass: You're welcome! Oh, also, when you want to show a template as an example, I'd recommend using the "Template link" template, or in discussions/talk pages, switch to source mode and type: {{tl|template name}}, for example: {{tl|cite web}} produces: {{cite web}} without giving the "empty citation" error. Rusty4321 talk contribs 20:07, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha, this is handy advise to have, thanks again!! AllCass (talk) 17:08, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from BOB SHAKIT KARMA (18:30, 3 May 2024)[edit]

how do I make a biography --BOB SHAKIT KARMA (talk) 18:30, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BOB SHAKIT KARMA: See on Help:Your first article, however, note that creating an autobiography for yourself is not allowed. Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:35, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Johnnysinsismydad (18:46, 4 May 2024)[edit]

How do I make a citation --Johnnysinsismydad (talk) 18:46, 4 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Johnnysinsismydad: Hello! See Help:Referencing for beginners. Rusty4321 talk contribs 20:02, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins[edit]

Hi there! Phase I of the Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Tech News: 2024-19[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages
Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.
  • The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [13][14]
  • Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the SiteAdminHelper. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page. [15]
  • Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [16]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar). [17][18]
  • When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [19]

Future changes

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Question from Solam Jacobs (16:15, 9 May 2024)[edit]

Hello how do I create cotitation --Solam Jacobs (talk) 16:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Solam Jacobs: Hello. Look at this guide to learn: Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1 Rusty4321 talk contribs 19:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Articles for deletion/Bahawalnagar incident[edit]

I reopened the AfD you closed to allow for more opinions. Ignoring the "it's pretty significant" WP:VAGUEWAVE non-argument, there are only two valid views there, one to delete, and one to keep. We could benefit from getting more discussion about this. Owen× ☎ 22:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OwenX: Thank you for letting me know. Rusty4321 talk contribs 22:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-20[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word __EXPECTWITHOUTSCANS__ to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list. [21]
  • If you use the user-preference "Show preview without reloading the page", then the template-page feature "Preview page with this template (what's this?)" will now also work without reloading the page. [22]
  • Kartographer maps can now specify an alternative text via the alt= attribute. This is identical in usage to the alt= attribute in the image and gallery syntax. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive. [23]
  • The old Guided Tour for the "New Filters for Edit Review" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people. [24]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar). [25][26]
  • The Special:Search results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure. [27]

Future changes

  • In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more. [28]
  • Two columns of the pagelinks database table (pl_namespace and pl_title) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the new linktarget table instead (lt_namespace and lt_title). In your existing SQL queries:
    1. Replace JOIN pagelinks with JOIN linktarget and pl_ with lt_ in the ON statement
    2. Below that add JOIN pagelinks ON lt_id = pl_target_id

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Question from AllCass (09:33, 16 May 2024)[edit]

Hi Rusty! I very recently reverted an edit which was vandalism. A user had replaced the profile box of an article dedicated to someone else, with their own personal information. While undoing the edit, I noticed that the box said to provide an explanation if what I was reverting was not vandalism. I believed what I was going to undo was pretty clearly vandalism so I did not provide an explanation and left the default message as it was. For future reference, should I be adding anything in the edit summary? Or is there anything else that needs to be done? --AllCass (talk) 09:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AllCass: In this case, I think that just leaving the edit summary as is would be okay; if you think further explanation is needed, you could type more after the text already in the edit summary box as needed.
You might want to let users know about this by warning them on their talk page. You can find a list here.
To warn a user, create a section with the current month and year as the subject, or add a comment to an existing section with the current month/year as the name. Paste the code from the list, and remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~ - on the key next to "1" on most English-language keyboards) if using the source editor
There are also tools that can help you with the revert-and-warn process, like Twinkle, which I use.
Feel free to ask if you have further questions regarding reverting vandalism or warning users. Rusty4321 talk contribs 18:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hiya, thank you so much for the helpful information on warnings! I have provided the user with a gentle, level 1 warning. We should be all good for now, thanks again for all the great help Rusty!
P.S. Twinkle looks terrifying at the moment, maybe in the future! AllCass (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 16 May 2024[edit]

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Volume, Issue and Number[edit]

Seems to be confusion such as Special:Diff/1221313560/1223346402 and Special:Diff/1209056379/1223346275.

If it says "Vol. 4" this translates to |volume=4. The volume is not the same thing as |issue= or |number=.

|issue= or |number= are aliases of each other, they are the same thing. I typically use |number= but if you prefer you can use |issue=. Either way, they are not the same thing as |volume=. Often times, there is only a volume and no issue/number. Some times there is only a issue/number and no volume, but this is less common. The |date= can be a 4-digit year, or a full date, but either way it should not be confused with volume or issue/number ie. the date is its own thing. Hope that helps. -- GreenC 18:51, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, when you add both |issue= and |number=, as here Special:Diff/1221317184/1223347002, it causes a red error to be generated in the citation list, and for the page to be listed at Category:CS1 errors: redundant parameter because these are redundant parameters they mean the same thing. -- GreenC 19:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GreenC: Aaaah, I see. I believe I saw something somewhere about Volume in |issue=, perhaps I misinterpreted it. Thanks. Rusty4321 talk contribs 00:25, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Richard Burgin (disambiguation)[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Richard Burgin (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a disambiguation page which either

  • disambiguates only one extant Wikipedia page and whose title ends in "(disambiguation)" (i.e., there is a primary topic);
  • disambiguates zero extant Wikipedia pages, regardless of its title; or
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from SZEROb (12:09, 18 May 2024)[edit]

Hello Rusty,

I've been a big fan for Wikipedia for a while, used it as my main source of history knowledge, however, never edited anything. Now though is a different situation: I am, being a CPA, former central banker, and now web developer, working on a new type of a social network. And I would like to create a Wikipedia page for it. Do you think it may be rejected just because I have no tenure with Wikipedia?

Regards,

Stas --SZEROb (talk) 12:09, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@SZEROb: It will probabyl not be rejected because you have no tenure with Wikipedia, as long as it follows the relevant policies and guidelines; I've seen some newcomers create very well-written articles.
What I'm concerned about is when you say you want to create a Wikipedia page for your new social network. I don't want to discourage you, but it might be hard to write neutrally, from an unbiased perspective, for one.
Conflict of interests (COIs) also need to be disclosed (see the link for more information). This guide also contains advice and what to do and not do.
If you think you would be fine writing an article about it, however, start it as a draft through our Articles for Creation process. We have a guide that might help with this.
Feel free to ask if you have questions. Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks!
Is looking at it before I submit something that you can do? SZEROb (talk) 14:15, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SZEROb: Yes, I can; any user can see and edit basically any page on Wikipedia. And you don't have to submit it just at once; you can start it, and keep on working on it until you feel that it's ready for submission. Rusty4321 talk contribs 14:18, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I obviously know, was just wondering if it needs some first-level review for first-time posters. Thank you. SZEROb (talk) 15:26, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully last question for today:
What I am working on is a new type of a web forum/board. Therefore it's a new creation in a new Category.
I am reading that I add category by adding to my new page, but what if that category does not exist? Do I create Category first? Or does category get created automatically if I add this syntax to my page? SZEROb (talk) 16:48, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Never mind, I found the answer myself! SZEROb (talk) 16:52, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Kevinswa (13:38, 19 May 2024)[edit]

how do i do a article? --Kevinswa (talk) 13:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kevinswa: Hello! See Help:Your first article for details on writing an article. Rusty4321 talk contribs 23:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-21[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. [31]
  • New changes have been made to the UploadWizard in Wikimedia Commons: the overall layout has been improved, by following new styling and spacing for the form and its fields; the headers and helper text for each of the fields was changed; the Caption field is now a required field, and there is an option for users to copy their caption into the media description. [32][33]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar). [34][35]
  • The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It will change on 22 May in some skins (Timeless, Modern, CologneBlue, Nostalgia, and Monobook). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in all other skins. The developers are also considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.

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Women in Red[edit]

Hi there, Rusty4321, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see you intend to spend some of you editing time helping us to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women. As you have not yet created any articles, with the help of our Ten Simple Rules, you might like to have a go at creating a woman's biography. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 16:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red May 2024[edit]

Women in Red | May 2024, Volume 10, Issue 5, Numbers 293, 294, 305, 306, 307


Online events:

Announcements from other communities

Tip of the month:

  • Use open-access references wherever possible, but a paywalled reliable source
    is better than none, particularly for biographies of living people.

Other ways to participate:

Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

--Ipigott (talk) 16:27, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red June 2024[edit]

Women in Red | June 2024, Volume 10, Issue 6, Numbers 293, 294, 308, 309, 310


Online events:

Announcements from other communities

Tip of the month:

Other ways to participate:

Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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Question from Rohitis7 (12:04, 23 May 2024)[edit]

Can I earn money by creating a Wikipedia page? --Rohitis7 (talk) 12:04, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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