Wikipedia:Stub types for deletion/Log/2008/August/4

August 4[edit]

{{University of Cambridge stub}}/Cat:University of Cambridge stubs[edit]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was keep, rename to UCambridge-stub
Unproposed. Has 30 stubs, which is half-way to threshold, but Cat:United Kingdom university stubs is nowhere near a splitting level (about 400 stubs), and in any case university stubs are split by region, not by specific university. I realise that some kind of a case could be made for splitting out Cambridge and Oxford, but there's certainly no need to even start thinking about that yet - and even if there were it would be useful to have template names that actually complied with the naming conventions. Delete Grutness...wha? 00:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry that I didn't propose my stub type before creation (see here). I think that there's a good case for splitting out Cambridge (and probably Oxford and the University of London too), since there are a truly vast number of articles relating to these institutions. The category already has 30 stubs (I read the guideline that Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case, and this is the primary stub type of the WikiProject University of Cambridge). A.C. Norman (talk) 06:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah - I didn't realise there was a WikiProject, though I'd suggest that it might be more useful for you to use a talk page banner template (such as used by a lot of projects, e.g., {{WPBeatles}}) rather han a stub type. If you do want to use a stub type instead, then the template will definitely need renaming - the current name is a very poor one by stub template naming conventions. Grutness...wha? 23:58, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As a primary stub type of a WikiProject, it does meet criteria. However, naming-wise should possibly be at {{cambridge-university-stub}} or similar. Plus, to echo Grutness, you may want to concentrate on your talk page banner and thorough article assessment first. Severo^TC 17:25, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help on this. I've looked at the stub naming pages, and agree that the name should be changed to something more conventional. I'm not entirely sold on {{cambridge-university-stub}}, though, since the university stubs split by location, and there are actually two universities in Cambridge (Anglia Ruskin being the other), which could lead to confusion, as the University of Cambridge WikiProject was set up just for the University of Cambridge related articles. It needs to be clear that the stubs relate to the University of Cambridge and not to universities in Cambridge generally. A.C. Norman (talk) 10:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can all agree that this stub is at an appropriate threshold and can be kept. However, I think the template name should be at {{UCambridge-stub}}, which is similar to other university stubs such as {{UGeorgia-stub}} and {{UMinnesota-stub}}. ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 13:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can live with that - rename to {{UCambridge-stub}}. Grutness...wha? 00:51, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's also an active WikiProject for the University of Oxford, so may I suggest this discussion could usefully deal with the two together? We should take A. C. Norman's point about the University of Cambridge not being the only university in Cambridge. As it happens, the same is true of the University of Oxford - and, indeed, of the University of London. Given that difficulty, I see little harm in Cat:University of Cambridge stubs, to be joined by Cat:University of Oxford stubs. Alternatively, we could cover any ambiguity by using {{UCantab-stub}} and {{UOxon-stub}}. Xn4 (talk) 19:54, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like a discussion amongst those Wikiprojects. If something gets decided, bring it back to WP:SFD or WP:WSS/P as the case may be. ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 18:43, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

Post-closure note: UCantab would add further ambiguity, since the term Cantab is also used for New Zealand's Canterbury University. Grutness...wha? 00:36, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]