Talk:Snowclone

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I dont know why two smartasses cited disliked titles like "Chasing Amy", but this construction is a regular word collocation with no special meaning implied or parallels drawn, in contrast to snowclones. I can find dozens of such cliches in titles; right off my head : "X and Me" All pages with titles containing and me. You may try "intitle" feature yourslef, like, All pages with titles containing Adventure in. Wikipedia is a great tool :-) Lembit Staan (talk) 17:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fear and Loathing - a very widely used snowclone?[edit]

I was surprised not to find Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing influence as used in his books Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and ...on_the_Campaign_Trail.

It is commonly used as a title template, IMO more widely than some existing examples in the entry, particularly (but not exclusively) in journalism.

For example searching with an exclusion for Thompson's own works produces far too many results to list but a selection of disparate uses includes:

Sometimes the form is varied slightly, dropping minor words as in Fear, loathing and the French police - spiked or Marshal Law: Fear and Loathing

Your thoughts on whether this is an appropriate section to add? Question:

Pauldavey (talk) 19:10, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not a snowclone (plz see its definition), just a catchy cliche, such as "fast and furious", "fire and forget", "once upon a time", etc. In any case, you have to find some reliable source which explains what kind of phrase it is. Then you may probably find another place in wikipedia for it. If nobody discusses this phrase in detail, then it does not belong to wikipedia. Lembit Staan (talk) 23:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Which definition please Lembit? I think it ticks boxes for all three of cliché, phrasal template and is used and recognized in multiple variants (as per article).

Perhaps I should have stated it as "Fear and Loathing ...[in/at/on] X" etc. (as per the examples), to make it clear it's a phrasal component not a fixed idiom. Is it different or inferior to "In space, no one can hear you X" or "X is the new Y" etc? Pauldavey (talk) 16:31, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter. Please reread my reply. You need to cite sources. Lembit Staan (talk) 20:44, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Eskimo vs. Inuit words for snow[edit]

Regarding recent reverts:

Eskimo languages are a wider group of languages than Inuit languages. Therefore the terms are not interchangeable. Lembit Staan (talk) 05:41, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

X is a flawless masterpiece with no flaws whatsoever[edit]

Usually referring to a game with noticeable bug(s) sarcastically - Ersonpay (talk page) 05:48, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should “X is dead, long live X” be added?[edit]

This is also an often re-interpreted phrase Tradukisto2 (talk) 19:50, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t think this concept is genuinely widely known or used[edit]

It’s just puns 24.45.255.214 (talk) 02:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

She X on my Y til I Z[edit]

often nonsensical and humorous play on the innuendo of "she ebbin on my nezer til i scrooge." notably popular on tumblr and reddit despite originating on twitter. a notable example is the [EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER] twitter thread and subsequent viral dub. (this is most likely NOT the original source of this video as it's been reposted to high heaven so it's difficult to find the original upload to say the least)

she wiki on my pee til i dia 63.239.193.154 (talk) 08:16, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

a strange surmount of black[edit]

i thought wikipedia is neutral and for everybody, why is there so much using black as an example and putting in american political topics? 2A0A:A540:42A0:0:E9AF:B7EF:8AD1:5019 (talk) 20:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]